Not surprisingly Homeworld's post originally #6 has been deleted. So much for a thoughful counter argument being allowed to exist on Hate 411!
See the new lineup below......
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| Where is homeworld's post? Guess Das Klaussen didn't like it. So much for individuality!:) |
Original Post 12/1/2010 11:34AM: Anti- Zimmer hate blogger Perry Klaussen of Hoboken 411, "Hoboken's most completely disturbed and bat sh*t crazy website in town" has yet another web gem invoking commmentary from, what else, Glenn Beck quoting a Jewish Rabbi and making the weak link to an argument against corner cars.
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| Perry Klaussen has distorted the truth so much and has such a limited grasp of reality that his nose has grown like Pinocchio! |
"Anyway – there was an excellent episode on Glenn Beck last month, where they talked about the “Tower of Babel” (from the book of Genesis) – and how that was practically a blue-print of what NOT to do to your citizens. I’m not going to elaborate too much – but the concept was that King Nimrod (yes, that’s where the phrase came from) wanted to make everyone into indistinguishable replicas of one another – but for some fictitious “common good.” Whereas God, thinks individuality and freedom were better ideas.
Rabbi Daniel Lapin was a guest of the show, and cited modern day examples – such as “surrendering your car” to be lumped into a common (and easily manipulated) socialist system… "
Das Link (if you dare): http://hoboken411.com/archives/54072
The comedy IMHO of this article is that Perry Klaussen makes this assertion in closing:
I’ve said repeatedly that I don’t have anything against Hertz or “hourly rental cars.” In fact, it can be viewed as an alternative to the costly, complicated old-school way of renting a car. However, it does not have to be on the street. Zip Cars were here, in private garages across the city for over 5 years. Furthermore, since Hertz is a corporate establishment, our city (the government) should play no role in this process.
Each year, more and more individuals are waking up to what’s happening around us. Don’t wait too long, or it’ll be way too late for you!
Question: What medication is the author of this article on (or not on)?
My Comment: Without the cars on the corner, Corner Cars is not the same program. I know people that signed up for both Corner Cars and Zip Cars because sometimes they say the Corner Cars are not available. That is a clear sign of utililization. It is exactly about choice, more choice for people who are looking to save on the family budget by car sharing in these tough economic times not some anti-individual campaign as concocted by some off-kilter Rabbi on Fox News via Glenn Beck. The arguments keep getting weaker and weaker on Hoboken 411 and most of his readers that are left seem to stick around (though one threatened to leave) to watch the downward spiral as shown in the comments from his site below...
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| From Hoboken 411 article posted today |
homeworld
Does this rabbi also advocate against taking public transportation because we “share the germs” on the PATH train, as well?
prag
"Yeah, let’s all defer to what the bible has to say about parking. #Sheesh."
marksnyderdesign
"Trying to connect the dots on your rationale for this post is next to impossible, but…
The major difference between the bible story and the social issue you are ATTEMPTING (all be it badly) to make a parallel to, is “CHOICE”. The city of Hoboken nor Hertz is mandating you surrender your car as King Nimrod did in the story. I’m quite awake to the issues of the day, thank you. And, BONUS FOR ME, I am able to make distinction between reality and ridiculousness.
Stick to reporting what the police blotter says and less on Bible stories and Glenn Beck opinions. Just sayin’…"
Holygoof
"You may just have lost me as a reader. You are making the same kind of fear mongering and extreme slippery slope arguments that Beck does. I think it’s an interesting point that you bring up that the city is doing all the work and that activity should be explored. Maybe it’s a misuse of city funds, maybe there is a good reason the city is pitching in? But you haven’t given any real details or insight on that.
Instead you jump to the conclusion that a voluntary program designed to alleviate some parking problems and take cars off the road is somehow turning us all into sheep. Calling the program “share the germs” is only meant to make things sound unsavory. These cars are probably no less sanitary then most things you touch, like door knobs, vending machines and PATH train seats.
First off, there aren’t fewer (less is the wrong word as that refers to measure not number) parking spots. It’s that some spots have been re-zoned to be used for a new kind of public transportation. If someone decides to give up their car because they have a good alternative, such as the Corner Cars, and that car they gave up would have been parked on the street then there is no negative effect on parking.
Second, it makes a good deal of sense to sprinkle the corner cars around the city rather than centralize them in a lot so as to make the cars more convenient for more people and thus encourage use. Plus, this helps keep the cost down as a private lot would charge Hertz and the cost would be passed on to the user. Lower costs also encourage use.
Third, no one is being forced to give up their personal car. The government is not mandating that we all drive plain white sedans issued by the city. Our driving routes are not set ahead of time.
If having readily accessible rental cars within walking distance of your home is stripping us of our individuality, I say Baaaaaaaa."
Instead you jump to the conclusion that a voluntary program designed to alleviate some parking problems and take cars off the road is somehow turning us all into sheep. Calling the program “share the germs” is only meant to make things sound unsavory. These cars are probably no less sanitary then most things you touch, like door knobs, vending machines and PATH train seats.
First off, there aren’t fewer (less is the wrong word as that refers to measure not number) parking spots. It’s that some spots have been re-zoned to be used for a new kind of public transportation. If someone decides to give up their car because they have a good alternative, such as the Corner Cars, and that car they gave up would have been parked on the street then there is no negative effect on parking.
Second, it makes a good deal of sense to sprinkle the corner cars around the city rather than centralize them in a lot so as to make the cars more convenient for more people and thus encourage use. Plus, this helps keep the cost down as a private lot would charge Hertz and the cost would be passed on to the user. Lower costs also encourage use.
Third, no one is being forced to give up their personal car. The government is not mandating that we all drive plain white sedans issued by the city. Our driving routes are not set ahead of time.
If having readily accessible rental cars within walking distance of your home is stripping us of our individuality, I say Baaaaaaaa."
And of course here is the poster YipYap denouncing the Corner Car Program as a communist conspiracy. Truth is stranger than fiction!
YipYap
I am so glad I have a nice indoor heated parking space. I think I am going to turn the heat up in my garage to 95 degrees this winter. That should offset any carbon credit you tree huggers think you are creating by not owning a car.
It’s also damm un-American not to own a car. Think of all of those poor suffering souls who are unemployed and starving and soon freezing to death in Detroit!All they want to do is stand in an assembly line all day and assemble cars for you! Yet your turn your back on your American brothers and drive a bunch of imported Corner Cars! Only commie pinko’s want to wait in line to take their turn borrowing the village bicycle, or in this case the imported Corner Car. The Toyota Prius and the Toyota Camry are Japanese and worse is the BMW Mini, and a Daimler Smart car are German! Didn’t you know your grandparents generation fought and died to defeat the Japanese and Germans and now you are tuning over American Soil via precious parking spaces that were meant for big and beautiful American automobiles to a bunch of imported Corner Cars? Your Grandparents are rolling over in their graves right now, we are losing the WAR! The economic war to the rest of the world because you will not do your part and be an American and drive a nice American SUV and park that SUV on American Soil. DAMMIT I am angry, I may go out tonight and paint those GREEN corner car parking spots Commie RED!
