Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Break Out Your Sliderules: Dan Tumpson Seminar on PILOTS

Dan Tumpson when he ran for City Council
Embedded below is an analysis of PILOT Agreements done by Dan Tumpson. Dan has run for both City Council and for Mayor and had been an advocate for years against the way PILOTS have been used in redevelopment projects. Dan took the time back in 2008 to explain the mathematics behind how PILOTS the way they have been done impact local residents taxes and the result has not been good as his math shows. This article is timely given the upcoming city Workshops on "Redevelopment 101 "at the Multi-Service Center.

Advocates for redevelopment on the other side of the political fence maintain that since other municipalities are doing them extensively, Hoboken should too since we get screwed by the county otherwise and pay more than our fair share as a municipality. This is a view that was and still is shared by former Mayor Roberts as well as Peter Cammarano who coincidentally is doing two years for taking bribes from a developer. In fact Mayor Roberts used to say "No good deed goes unpunished". I feel many in reform would respond "Well, two wrongs don't make a right".

Dan has a website called Hoboken Citizens and the URL is now http://www.hobokencitizens.net/. He has some other issues archived on that site for your perusal as well. While Dan did not win as a candidate a big part of me wishes that more people had listened too him on this topic as his predictions about the effect of PILOTS and they way they were concocted were eerily prophetic. Perhaps Dan's explanations were a bit wonkish but give the guy a break; he has a Ph.D. The more important thing is Dan appears to be right in at least that PILOTS cost regular tax payers money. He doesn't completely say no to PILOTS but concludes that the agreements that are created should at least be adjustable on a yearly basis so that taxes are not increased for everyone else. It is a subtle position but based on numerical analysis. However, from a pragmatic standpoint a developer would be unlikely to engage in a PILOT if they knew the taxation would work out to be the same. In order to get buildings you would nto normally get you have to give something up as a city. You just have to make sure you get back is worth it for the city. If you are good at math, hone in your skills and get calculating with Dan's explanation below......

Here is another article on how the agreement to build the W hotel (which is a fine hotel by the way and an asset to the City of Hoboken) screws Hoboken taxpayers by over 14%.....

Port Authority Redevelopment PILOT Deal Adds 14.1% to Hoboken Taxes
http://www.hobokencitizens.net/patax01.htm

And finally, the seminar......

Dan Tumpson's PILOT Seminar on Property tax Rates from 10/22/2008:



Feel free to state your opinion either way in the comments below but regardless of your stance, do take a stab at the math. Perhaps a simpler "PILOTS for Dummies" version of this seminar is forthcoming. As for me, I don't think PILOTS should be used for residential highrises. That is my opinion and quite a few other reformers out there. ◦
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