Here is the link to the MSV blog piece by Roman that triggered the response from Hoboken 411:
http://hobokenhorse.blogspot.com/2011/03/councilman-mike-russo-makes-surprise.html
My comment: One word, Megalomania
Note: Beth Mason places political ads on this site. Don't you think that reflects poorly on her as a fenale public figure and her campaign? Apparently one of her handlers did since the redirect did is no longer on his site. Too late. That is what screen captures are for.
Hoboken 411 is now featuring prominently the campaign ads of Beth Mason. There is nothing wrong with that since it is after all a free country and Hoboken 411 has a right to make money. However the takeaways to think about are:
1) Beth Mason apparently doesn't mind advertising on a web site that mocks dwarfs.
2) Will this prevent Hoboken 411 of providing balanced coverage of political events since is he is being compensated by Beth Mason? (what a leading question :))
3) Will this arrangement show up properly on Beth Mason's ELEC reports? Not just the advertising but whatever other support that may be given.
4) Will others from the old guard advertise on this website? Think "Timmy Time".
5) Also worth noting the biggest repaving project in the 2nd Ward history was predomiantly done by the County and not by the City of Hoboken. The roads needed it. I am sure Beth Mason at least made a few phone calls.
All I am really saying here is that while it may be true that I with this blog generally support Mayor Zimmer, unlike Hoboken 411 I am not compensated for it. Hence the reason why so many political followers refer to that site as Mason 411. The traffic at that site has dropped alongside Beth Mason's popularity. This is one death spiral that is definitely co-mingled.
It is a shame as I once supported Beth Mason. This shows I am not infallible but I find her recent moves and behavior unfathomable as of late and I simply disagree with what she is preventing the Mayor from doing on most issues. I'll take her yes vote on the parks bonding but for many it could be too little too late. Still, with her money she will be a formidable candidate.
Share your thoughts in the comments below:
Update 3/4/2011:
Update: Is Perry Klaussen a Tax Evader, Extortionist or Well Monied and Groomed Guy?
Perry Klaussen has been stirring things up a bit about the potential sale of HUMC. So too has Beth Mason in what appears to be her friend from NJ Appleseed organization according to the Grafix Avenger website: http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/03/masons-appleseed-connection.html. Beth Mason can't have Dawn Zimmer succeed in selling the hospital so it is a full court press for her and Mike Russo to shed doubt on the transaction any way possible. Dawn Zimmer's success is not an option. So much for Apollo 13!
For more on that topic go to MSV where Da Horsey has a thorough piece on the HUMC obstructionism by Beth Mason and Mike Russo:
http://hobokenhorse.blogspot.com/2011/03/mason411-goes-on-jihad-to-sabotage.html
In the meantime, more on what make Perry Klaussen tick (or tick people off):
Is Perry Klaussen a Bully or Extortionist?
But some of you might not know of Perry's other allegedly nefarious activities when it comes to the operation of his blog. One local merchant who wished to have his name withheld, rejected Perry last year with his pitch for ads saying to me that "He was crazy. He kept on insisting he would give me all this business. I didn't believe him. I told him to go away. He said not doing ads with me will hurt your business. He was crazy."
There are more cases of Perry's overaggressive sales pitches but I am still compiling accounts and will release more at a later date. I want to get first hand accounts but on the record with businesses names. This is somewhat hard to do since many businesses in Hoboken seem to be afraid to speak out against him. They might be afraid of what happened to East LA where Perry had a series of stories that were negative about that establishment not too long ago. Does that qualify him as a bully or extortionist? I leave it to you the reader to decide.
Is Perry Klaussen a Tax Evader, Just a Barterer or Well Monied and Groomed Guy?
Wowsers in his trousers! It turns out that Perry Klaussen is a platinum member at the Hoboken Man. In order to be a platinum member you have to fork over $1,150. This includes unlimited Signature Cuts, unlimited Signature Manicures, 3 Precision Shaves, 3 Signature Facials, 3 Signature Pedicures, and 15% off all other services. According to the plaque below he has been a member since November 2010. Given the way Perry dresses and generally keeps himself up does anyone believe he paid the full $1,150 for the membership. I don't but acknowledge it is always possible. That would make him a well-groomed man making a good income off his website (OK that's a stretch). Now if Perry got the membership in lieu of payment isn't this just a way to avoid showing income and thus dodging taxes? I realize this could start up a whole debate about the issues around barter but this doesn't pass the Hoboken Journal smell test. I think at the very least if someone is going to pay over $1000 for grooming, the establishment should at least have a dress code that does not allow shorts.
Here is the best part, Perry is on the platinum plaque but they spelled his last name wrong. His last name is Klaussen not Kalussen. There is poetic justice in the world after all. A Beth Mason electoral defeat could find Klaussen heading South to an area suitable to people of his ilk, the Florida Panhandle. That is a Hoboken Journal prognostication for you. In jest of course. The future is always hard to predict. Just ask Beth Mason's supporters who thought she would run away with the Mayoral election in May of 2009.
Perry Kalussen is the spelling on the Hoboken Man's wall of the well groomed. |
Update 3/3/2011:
Update: Perry Klaussen of Hoboken 411 and
his Obsession with Dwarfs
The crazy making over at Hoboken 411 has doubled down possibly due to the fact that Beth Mason recently ran a a smear poll and the numbers probably didn't come back too good. After all H411's business model seems to be tied with a Beth Mason electoral victory. Yet another reason to vote Beth Mason out in May. In the meantime Perry Klaussen just can't let the dwarf thing go. I guess at 6'4" he has an affinity for little people (and yes that is the PC way to call them as they do on the TLC Channel). As the expression goes opposites sometimes attract.
Could it be that Perry Klaussen's obsession with dwarfs goes way beyond his hatred for politico Tony Soares? The word fetish certainly comes to mind.
Here is a screen shot of the update he did today on H411:
Link: http://hoboken411.com/archives/59766 |
Update 2/24/2011:
Update: Perry Klaussen- Proprietor of Mason 411 "Covers" State of City Address, Attacks Dwarves, Goes off Rails
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Perry Klaussen of H411 |
The Notion that Hoboken411 is the "Most Complete Hoboken News Site for News" is a Lie and Downright Laughable
Dawn Zimmer gave her State of the city Address on Tuesday February 22, 2011. On the day of the event Hoboken Patch, NJ.com, and Hudson Reporter all had posts on the upcoming event on their respective websites. Perry Klaussen of Hoboken 411 did not. That is his prerogative as a blog can cover whatever it wants to. However, when it claims to be the most complete new website in town and doesn't mention a significant event like The State of the City Address beforehand it is certainly not the most complete news website about Hoboken. That assertion is quite laughable. Below is a word cloud of the stories that day on H411 2/22/2011. Keywords like cheese, falafel, egg, bacon, and sandwich stand out since Perry spent most of his day updating threads on food businesses which he still does a comprehensive job of covering. No coverage that day of the State of the City Address by the Mayor should be conclusive enough to end the assertion that Hoboken 411 is most certainly not the "most complete news website on Hoboken". I didn't even talk about the editorial slant. I rest my case.
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Hoboken 411 Word Cloud on stories the day of 2/22/2011. No mention of the State of City Address. Perry must have had food on the brain that day. Hungry boy! |
Despite not covering the fact that the State of The City was taking place, Perry Klaussen showed up to do typical hit piece on Zimmer supporters. He perched up top on the second floor to get birds eye shots of his targets He pretended to take video of the event but he was really after photos of certain members of the audience including myself for his crappily shot photo montage. His whole pathetic story seemed to be about the fact that Zimmer supporters were at the Address. What kind of story is that? Of course the Mayor's supporters were there. People who support the Mayor were there and those don't support her were generally not. Duh! Mike Russo wasn't there. Case in point. I suppose he had other priorities besides the State of the City of Hoboken. Perry did finally put up the full text of Zimmer's remarks after lifting it off of another website by providing a link near bottom of the story. Mike Russo's rebuttal and spin was front and center and at least on that level H411, augmented the local coverage.
The photo below shows how unhinged Perry Klaussen has become. On one hand he spouts off that he is a credentialed journalist, on the other he is seen here giving Roman Brice of MSV the finger knowing his picture is being taken. Would any credentialed real journalist be caught doing such a thing? Not if they actually wanted a career. Lane Bajardi who was not present at this event should take note.
Beth Mason Buys Off Hoboken 411 and Perry Klaussen
Beth Mason has been a key advertiser at Hoboken 411 and has never been criticized even once by this website since assuming office in 2007. Did the purchase of those ads affect the coverage by Hoboken 411? In the words of Sarah Palin "You betchya"!
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Smear blog Hoboken 411 run by Perry Klaussen (left) is what Beth Mason (right) has left in her media arsenal. Photos courtesy of MSV blog. |
Perry Klaussen put up another post on lampooning dwarfism yesterday in the context of Hoboken St. Patrick's Day. I agree with Tony Soares that this was a veiled attack on him given the history between Perry and Tony. Tony Soares is no saint when it comes keeping the political dialogue measured and within boundaries but I have to say this is pretty low brow stuff even coming from Perry Klaussen. His piece "Do you know a dwarf out of work?" is another example of how low Mason411 (Hoboken 411) will go to stamp out and intimidate any of Beth's opponents.
Here is a screen shot from Hoboken 411's piece posted 2/23/2011:
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Another hit piece from Perry Klaussen of dwarfism and veiled attack on Tony Soares posted 2/23/2011. |
Tony Soares responds to Hoboken 411 post yesterday and last year
Tony Soares is a resident of Hoboken who has dwarfism and has been a critic of Beth Mason and Hoboken 411. He had this to say about the post on Hoboken411.
Quote from Tony Soares:
"This is a fake Craigslist ad and part of Perry Klaussen's annual attack on Dwarfism. As crazy as it sounds I know many people with dwarfism who are assaulted and harassed on St Pats day's across the country. Beth Mason who advertises here should be ashamed. 70,000 Dwarfs and disabled were killed by the Nazi's before any Death Camps were in operation."
He also sent this to Brett Wilshe at Jersey Journal:
"Hi Brett,
I'm Tony Soares, former councilman and Zimmer supporter now. I have dwarfism and I oppose Beth Mason. For that I am annually harassed by her site Hoboken 411. Take a look. Two years in a row. Another set of screen shots to follow. Many people with my disability are harassed on St. Pat's day, this makes Hoboken an unsafe place for me and I place blame squarely on the shoulders of Council President Mason."
Tony also sent this to Beth Mason's camp:
"Does Beth know that dwarves were murdered by Nazi's as well? 70,000 before a single death camp opened!"
Here is a screen shot from Hoboken 411's anti-dwarf piece posted last year on 3/4/2010:
Link: http://hoboken411.com/archives/38778
Update 8/25/2010: Still no response from the owner of you know what Hoboken website for the meet up. Honestly, I was curious to see what he would say but I have put a range of times out there for the guy to address his grievances with me whatever they may be. Ball is in his court. Moving on.
Original Post 8/22/2010:
Perry Klaussen- A Close Encounter of the Absurd Kind
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Perry Klaussen of Hoboken 411 |
Juan stopped and approached Perry Klaussen and politely introduced himself and shook Perry Klaussen's hand. It took Perry a moment to realize who Juan was. Once he did his expression immediately switched to anger as he said to Juan (paraphrased) "I am the only credentialed Journalist in Hoboken and yet the Zimmer Administration doesn't give me press releases? Would you care to comment on the record?" He then reached in his bag to get out what I presumed to be a recording device. However, when he saw me turn my camera to the on position, he thought better of it. Perry's tone was quite hostile towards Juan Melli, a person Perry had met for the first time. Perry then said to Juan quite nastily "Watch where you walk, you watch what happens". At that point Juan appropriately walked away and Perry Klaussen shouted at Juan "Fuck you" and a few other anti-Zimmer epithets.
After Juan Melli left I mainly listened to Perry Klaussen (keep in mind I didn't have to) refer to my site as "weak and unoriginal". I replied that I did get a few ideas from his site like photo of the day but that the photos are indeed mine. I also acknowledged that his traffic is better than mine but he continued to assert that my site was full of lies and that my arguments are weak. Opinions vary and I never write anything on my blog that I know not to be true. Perry eventually walked away and yelled a few more things that I could not make out.
I have to admit that while I kept my composure with the guy I felt the adrenaline rush the comes with a conflict such as this. It comes from my survival instinct that I could not trust this guy since he was coming off so angry. Still, there is a history for those who may not know it that I feel I should share now with my readership regarding why there is a rift between Perry and I.
I used to comment frequently on Hoboken411 back in 2008 and wrote a few of my poems that Perry Klaussen published like my piece on Dave Roberts budget "Twas The Night Before the Budget" http://thehobokenjournal.blogspot.com/2008/12/twas-night-before-budget.html and other such content.
I started to figure out that a change in editorial policy had occurred when an innocuous limerick I had submitted as a full post on a purple pillow was promptly pulled after being up on Hoboken 411 briefly. Here is the limerick below:
Purple Pillow Limerick
A plush purple pillow was once placed,
with such servile attentive haste,
it was placed with great care,
to comfort Mason's derriere,
but it was Roberts who about the budget was disgraced.
with such servile attentive haste,
it was placed with great care,
to comfort Mason's derriere,
but it was Roberts who about the budget was disgraced.
This limerick was about Lane Bajardi and him obsequiously giving Councilwoman Beth Mason a purple pillow to give her comfort at a City Council meeting. It was a scene that many who saw it found quite funny so I deemed it bard worthy at the time. I began to figure out that the reason why it was pulled was that it offended either Lane Bajardi or Beth Mason. I was given a different reason from Perry Klaussen as to why it was pulled and quite frankly I did not buy it. I still don't to this day.
Still, I admit was wrong to challenge Perry on what he can or can't publish on his own site. I then decided to create my own website to avoid such disputes and I let him know about it. At first he seemed fine with it but then at some point I was no longer able to comment on his site and at then he started actually blocking my ip address. At that point I left his site for good. After all, what is the point of commenting on an open forum if you can't comment openly? Many others have since followed by leaving Hoboken 411. His comments for sure are way down since the point when he really started banning key commenters en masse.
I have been critical of his one sided work ever since but still give him credit for his work prior to the doctrinal shift in his blog in creating a blogging scene in Hoboken. Since then his commenting policies, editorial slant and behavior has driven away many intelligent commenters and contributors. I honestly don't expect the guy to like me even one iota. I have been the MSNBC to his Fox News (blogger on blogger) and he can't like what I am writing.
Oh yeah and in jest I did this JibJab Spoof video of him and his sidekick:
With that said I wrote Perry Klaussen a quick email after that exchange yesterday and offered to meet up with him since he had chided me for not have anything to say to him to his face. I offered to listen to whatever grievances he might have first and then I would mention mine. Maybe it is not the smartest thing I have ever suggested but here is the email I sent to him on the 5% chance that such a detente could lead to something. I can assure my readers and Perry that my offer is sincere and I have no expectations as to an outcome.
My email is below:
"kurt.gardiner@gmail.com to hoboken411@gmail.com
Perry-
Ok, you want a dialogue? I'll bite. I assumed that when you stopped responding to my emails that the dialogue was over between us.
That is one of the reasons I haven't reached out to you and said to you on the street that I have nothing to say to you, I have said it online. The last email I sent to you, you did not respond. Pure and simple, the ball was in your court.
You want to meet or exchange emails over things you feel I have wronged you about name the place and I'll show up.
Conditions:
1) No shouting.
2) You get to present your grievances to me first.
3) I get to respond to your grievances and present mine.
4) You get to respond to my grievances.
5) Meeting will be on the weekend during daytime.
6) Feel free to add any other stipulations.
If you are serious about an exchange/dialogue then suggest a place to meet.
Otherwise, good luck with your website. :)
- Kurt"
Perry Klaussen did reply and here is his brief note to me:
"FYI – your email was in the junk folder just now – and I don’t make a habit of checking it religiously, since I already get thousands of regular emails in my standard inbox keeping me busy.
Sure. I’ll let you know what weekend works. But it’s funny that your “stipulations” are so carefully crafted as if it’s some kind of hostage exchange. Will there be a game show host, red buzzer and timer too? Heh!
Thanks
Perry"
I will wait and see if he sets up a time. My intention is to meet face to face and see what he has to say to me when things are a bit calmer. If our meeting should get out of hand we both have the option of walking away. Feel free to comment below in the comments section. I freely admit that I started this feud by not kowtowing to all things Klaussen or Mason and by exercising my right, my right to free speech.
Additional comment: The reason for the title of this piece in terms of the absurdity is that if my traffic is so much smaller than his, and my arguments so weak (his words) then why is he so upset with me? Shouldn't I just be ignored if my site is that insignificant in comparison? It is not like I am taking ads away from him; just the traffic of those people he banned or disrespected anyway.
Also, if Perry Klaussen of Hoboken 411 was really serious about getting press releases he can subscribe to the City's Nixle service and they will come to him just like they will for every other citizen. ◦

FAP 82p · 763 weeks ago
To borrow from On the Waterfront, Perry could have been a contender but now he's just a bum, and that's probably eating at him.
Redrider765 · 763 weeks ago
Furey · 763 weeks ago
What Katie wrote is true. From what I understand he had a settlement from WIllow Billiards. I heard stories about him losing a lot of it in Atlantic City from gambling. His site traffic does pay him some money from advertisements, but I would surmise it can't be that much.
Also lets talk site traffic. He can claim up and down about his traffic, but there's no chance that 150,000 people a day are really visiting his site. Yes, he will show numbers to back up his claims, but most of those "pageviews" are people Googling images & hitting his site. Or people searching for random things about Hoboken (like out of towners searching on the word "Cake Boss Hoboken" - and 411 comes up.
So he can pat himself on the back about people visiting his site, but page views are useful in measuring how much incoming traffic a site has, it isn't exactly a good or accurate way of measuring impact or even engagement.. Most of his polls that he has never are more than 500 votes. That means 500 people actually taking the time to read the poll and click on an answer. Here's an example from May 2010:
http://hoboken411.com/archives/38451
Most critics of pageview agree that it is a flawed metric, and the bigger question is how long people are staying on a website and interacting with it. There's no question that he's the most popular website in town, and he should be very proud of what he's done, but he's delusional if he actually thinks he has that many readers. I would guess he has about 1,500 people a day who actually view his website for longer than 1 minute.
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
As far as originality goes, stick to the truth as you know it. A lot of what is 'original' on 411 owes it's novelty to its abuse of fact and reason. Let them be thus original. You have the originality of uncensored contributions. Sometimes it will be interesting, sometimes dull, sometimes irritating. But it *will* be original.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
When it does not fit his agenda.
guest · 763 weeks ago
khoboken · 763 weeks ago
khoboken · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Because it does not fall in line with your agenda. The thread was the Donna poster. Care to explain why my comment was censored?
ss1959 · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
No dog running in any race. Thanks for the confirmation
On your Blog's bias. I will be sure to tell everyone in my building.
TheBankRobber 66p · 763 weeks ago
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
True dialog, you don't have any kind of exclusive no spin zone running here by your own admissions of moderating comments and being what you term a supporter of the administration. You are a partisan plain and
Simple. I am nobody other than a concerned taxpayer with one vote to cast , actually two votes the second is my feet which I may choose to vote with since my children will need a better education that a town full of unqualified cronies can provide.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 763 weeks ago
http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/9240985...
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
Here's the problem with you guys - by which I mean people who have a ready agenda but pretend to be just logging onto a site and forming an opinion in real time.
You're all lazy as hell. You can't be bothered to establish an ID and underlying entity and stand behind it. You keep coming back as a new disposable persona. Post for a few days, back up none of what you say, answer no questions, always reach the same dreary high-minded/self-pitying conclusions, and head for the exits. But you'll be back as someone else, and someone else, and someone else - and repeat it all again.
I have established, for good or ill, a track record behind this name. I make mistakes, miss points, confuse issues - but it's always Info, warts and all. Some people know me. And others can find out if they really want to. Whatever I have to say about the November elections, the May elections, the next bit of drivel on 411 - I'll say under this handle.
Who will you be next month? Who were you last time? I could guess, but not going to bother.
As far as talking to other parents and telling them how you felt ill-used here - have at it. Frankly, it sounds childish. Nor do I think 411 was ruined by parental word-of-mouth. It was by the collective cyber experience that spawned all these new blogs, all of which, it's a safe bet, you don't like. Nor would I listen to what people tell me to think about blogs without finding out on my own. Christ, there are only a few in town, I'm not writing one off because a non-entity with 3 posts says so. Maybe your 'friends' are different.
I can only imagine how offensive 411 must be to you if having a post briefly held in moderation before being published makes you want to gather up all the neighbors for a bit of hand-wringing.
Run along now. You have doorbells to ring.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
About the confusion but I am not that person, and remember this because I will only say this one more time. I don't care
For these blogger antics, Kurt has written a ton of hyper critical articles on the other blogger Perry but apparently just met him on the street the other day after spending months criticizim him including petty crap like weight. I would not expect them to embrace in a chace
Encounter on the street after all of the vitriol posted here. Kurt seems to have exaggerated the encounter and the Hoboken Reporter called him on it. The Blog wars will never end it seems. One thing I have noted about Perry is he has not attacked back in any shape or form online. I gather has to take the high ground while this place and other blogs in town choose to take the gutter.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Redrider765 · 763 weeks ago
khoboken · 763 weeks ago
You are way too worked up over this not have somekind of personal stake in the argyument. You are starting to get a little unhinged.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Actually I don't defend the antics of any of the bloggers in town. However Kurt here takes the cake. His imagination has spawned dozens of fantasy speculative blog entries over the last year, about another blogger who he did not meet after a years worth of hit pieces, and when they meet by chance on the street and he does not get a loving embrace but more of the kind of reaction a stalker would get he feels slighted. Kurt you have some imagination. I look forward to your will take on you meet and greet with Perry if it ever happens. Somehow I don't think it will since Perry might think you have some kind of crush since you are so infatuated with him. Yes you are admit it since we all can see it in your writing all you need to do is Read between the lines.
p1ywood 98p · 763 weeks ago
Carolina · 763 weeks ago
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
Carolina · 763 weeks ago
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
Are you going to do something more than pounce on grammatical details? It's obvious you have a girl woody for Smarty and maybe Kurt too. What's the beef? Apart from the Reporter and Patch... neither of which have blogging as a priority, what do you think is the superior website in town that these others should aspire to?
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
Anonymous · 763 weeks ago
To RG and all others who comment about other blogs and what he or she does or says only makes the other blogger happier, not angrier.
This other blog is indeed not doing well with many advertisers yanking their ads and commentors walking away. Let it happen alone and without your help. As it is the 411 is similar to Howard Stern, more people use it to see what will be said next rather than people read it because they want to. The above post only makes those that dislike 411 want to see what will be said even more.
DasKlaussen 50p · 763 weeks ago
All of you suck and are not allowed to comment or disagree with me. If you don't shut up, me and my minion will get you. And we're going to get you too giant.
p1ywood 98p · 763 weeks ago
It was not a matter of if something like this would happen but rather when. A few short shots:
1. Is anyone really surprised that this happened?
2. I know this is a hot button for many but why all the anger / hostility? Is it worth it? Can local blogs co-exist? Do they need be mutually exclusive? Does this situation merit F-bombs? The public will ultimately make up it's own mind where to go, what to read and what to believe.
3. It would be nice if the Hudson Reporter could spend a few more seconds on a story before hitting the "send" button. I know that Patch is breathing down their neck, but all the more reason to be timely as well as succinct and accurate. Disappointing. Survey stories accurately or not at all. As mentioned elsewhere, the fact that they couldn't lift the date accurately from a story they link to (which is where they likely got the story initially) speaks loudly.
4. Factual inaccuracies are always fair game.
5. I do not necessarily believe anything good (other than some great sound-bites) will come of a meeting between H411 and HJ, but if such a meeting is going to take place I would like to be there as an impartial observer. Should be really interesting. It could even be handled as some kind of a fundraiser if played right (which might be the only good that comes of it). Heck, I would even volunteer my services to moderate or write a first hand, impartial account of the meeting.
6. While others have myriad legitimate gripes, I would like to go on record as stating that I have made an effort to be respectful and evenhanded with all websites in this area, and I would like to thank all for returning the favor and for all the courtesies that have always been extended to me, despite me pushing the boundaries on occasion. Thanks again.
I'll shut up now. Back to live action.
Furey · 763 weeks ago
"The official psychological term for this behavior is "motivated cognition" -- a tendency to bias our interpretation of facts to fit a version of the world we wish to believe is true. For instance, one study found that college basketball fans, viewing the same video of a game, were likely to believe the rival team committed at least twice as many fouls as their own.
Political beliefs are even more susceptible. Research has found that when psychologists confront political partisans with facts contradictory to their opinions, they become even more convinced of their existing beliefs."
A perfect example is how news are reported by 411 vs anyone else: The budget. The police layoffs. The $20 surplus. The municipal garage lease situation. 411 makes an angle, and when confronted by any fact to dispute their claims, they simply ignore it or refute it.
Furey · 763 weeks ago
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
It could be he realized he made a huge mistake when he became unhinged and abusive in public.
On second thought, I doubt he is capable of that kind of understanding.
deleted5542758 83p · 763 weeks ago
1. Perry isn't posting about this b/c he doesn't link to other sites ever (or let his posters link to other sites)
2. I can't see any point to Kurt meeting with Perry. Let Perry live in his misery alone.
Hudson Sheep · 763 weeks ago
ss1959 · 763 weeks ago
Scott · 763 weeks ago
I quit visiting H411 entirely before the last election when the blatant hypocrisy became more annoying then the occasional (painfully obvious) paid product reviews. THJ, MSV, and Hoboken patch have become the only inhabitants of my "Hoboken" google reader folder and I haven't missed H411 at all. It's been obvious for a long time that Perry is no journalist and probably needs to find a day job; it must be stressful trying to make a living from a neighborhood blog, even in a neighborhood as politically dysfunctional as Hoboken.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
to go all wine and roses with Dawn because she won an election? Please it has never been about reform
or anything else but eyeballs with his web site. He would have no readers if all he did were puff
pieces on ribbon cuttings He built his web site on Dave Roberts flubs and now that we have bumbling Dawn running
the show making for an easy Turkey shoot there is no way he is going to change stations now from Rock n Roll to Elevator Music.
tburns · 763 weeks ago
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
I think even Klaussen & Co. know that their extreme anti-Zimmer bias has hurt the actual business of the site.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Truth Teller · 763 weeks ago
http://thehobokenjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/the...
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Kate · 763 weeks ago
MayorMobile · 763 weeks ago
4. winesnob
August 24th, 2010 |
with a scoop like this they have to give you a press pass now…keep up the good work Perry
Carolina · 763 weeks ago
"Until the 'real media' states how irrational and dishonest Beth's claim of a $20million surplus is, don't expect me to take them seriously."
So you basically want media organizations to print negative opinions about Beth Mason, rather than letting the facts speak for themselves. I have read plenty of negative things in the local mainstream media about Mason without them needing to suspend neutrality. All they have to do is make the facts clear, especially in oposition to what she says, and we get the drift. I suppose you would praise the Jersey Journal for writing some sort of news headline like "Beth lies and is a jerk." That would be propaganda, not news reporting. I have read in the mainstream media that there is a $20 surplus but $8 cannot be spent, so really its only $12. Thus, I know that Beth is wrong. That is the correct way for a newspaper to say it, not 'beth's crazy' like you would like.
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
I am reminded of evening news programs who bring on 'both sides' to discuss an issue, 'letting the facts speak for themselves', and leaving the general impression that 'the truth lies somewhere in the middle".
And now, here to talk about death camps and the final solution - staunch supporter, the rather dapper, Heinrich Himmler and, I must say, a rather petulant nay-saying Elie Wiesel...
Carolina · 763 weeks ago
Carolina · 763 weeks ago
"Beth Mason claims that there is a $20 million suprlus. However, in reality, only $12 millioin can be spent, and the mayor says that even that money can't be spent because it is saving such and such in the long run."
THERE, that is the way the media can tell us the truth without adding "Beth is a lying moron."
Boink · 763 weeks ago
that booming voice on Washington Street regaling the tale of this Absurd Close Encounter to some woman in
front of It's Greek to Me. The way you were spinning your tale of Perry, Perry, Perry with a mannish voice yet a bit of giddiness like a teenage girl was as if
you actually had some kind of bathroom encounter with a rock star or something. Gotta lay off the man crush there Kurt, it won't help you
score you any points with the ladies.
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 763 weeks ago
Since your favorite website's proprietor seems to be so completely unhinged (along with you) by my mentioning the poor quality of his work I have decided to not mention him directly or his little minion ghost writer by name either. I feel perhaps a cooling off period is in order.
The only reason I am single is I haven't made meeting someone and settling down my priority. What about you boink? Do you like to boink the ladies? Good for you buddy. Spread your seed and multiply with a little army of douches. F&ck away Jersey Boy!
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
khoboken · 763 weeks ago
Boink the Oink is obviously someone from the Bet Mazin/Fin Boy school of political skulduggery who is tyring to annoy the hell out of you. Despite many requests that Boink share something of substance regarding any issue that he chooses, and thereby become a part of the free wheeling exchange here, so far he/she has failed to give us the benefit of anything closely resembling adult discourse. Best advice is to just ignore him at this point. He is a lost and lonely cause.
So how does it feel to have your first fan/stalker/psycho?
deleted8670214 100p · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
TA DA..!! --->>> Insert Conspiracy Theory Here
Well now that you know what do you plan on doing with this info?
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
http://www.politickernj.com/something-old-new-hob...
NotsoEasyE · 763 weeks ago
I tried telling 411 last night that the "Mayor parks illegally! OMFG!" Story he got was jumping the shark. The petty stuff is just a turnoff, but I don't think he's listening. Things were better a couple years ago, you could hear all kinds of stuff about everyone at city hall. No more, just Zimmer, all the time. I'm not joking when I say I think he's watching way too much Glenn Beck.
I don't think I want to read another 3 years of that, so I'm going to exercise my right to change the channel.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
NotsoEasyE · 763 weeks ago
Thanks for the welcome!
Of course Katie, someone has to keep me in line.
p1ywood 98p · 763 weeks ago
Honestly, I must say that I've reached a point with the content and comments on that site where I just said "I guess I just don't get it now. The premise, anything.Where would you even start with a comment about that. I just don't belong here". I don't find the dynamic amusing, I find it off-kilter in a way I don't feel comfortable even talking about, let alone making light of. There's something strangely wrong. Yet at the same time to date I have never been moderated or attacked. And I did some "pushing the limits" stuff. Nor have I attacked that site and it's head, or necessarily plan on starting now. I had a pretty good run over there. There are many legitimate grips about that site. So it's a bit complicated. I don't expect many will understand where I'm coming from on this. My joking about it seems cruel or petty or something. It was just time to move on and I don't want to dwell on it. I might want some day to stop back to see if I recognize the old neighborhood, but although I haven't said anything inflamatory, I think I may have just burned the bridge.
I'll lighten up now.
InfotainMe · 763 weeks ago
As if to make you feel like you did the right thing, their renowned ghost-writer is paying us a visit today. http://thehobokenjournal.blogspot.com/2010/08/per... He doesn't quite carry on that way back at home... It's kind of like the way Saudis carry on once they get to Europe. He has to go home later, put on the burqa, pretend he doesn't drink, or talk like that. So we let him have his bit of fun.
You, on the other hand, can get totally s-faced and run a tab. No one collects as far as I know. Have fun.
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
Just exactly what value do you add here other than to be the local squeaky b*itc*h anyway Infotainme?
I don't see any kind of insightful commentary regurgitated from you anywhere here, so exactly what
does your valuable time, oh your so valuable time whacking out comments onto your keyboard consist of?
For you see there is a new Sherrif in town. His name is Boink and he has added more excitement to this
blog which was quieter than a morgue only a few days ago. Just take a look and see the FACTS don't lie this thread is
now the NUMBER 1 thread on Kurt's Blog with an all time high of comments, and LOOK AND SEE more defectors from H411 too.
You can thank me later, but only after you add some value there InfotainME or I may ask Kurt to start a POLL to vote
you OFF this Island.
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
Hobbs · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
You thank you. And for my next move I will simply
Dissapear, but worry not my friendly neighborhood bloggers I shall return once the a.s.s. Has brayed!
Boink 61p · 763 weeks ago
Boink · 763 weeks ago
A clue I am not Lane and Captain Kurt can prove it I was online during the last
Live chat at the council meet when Lane was speaking. ROLF joke is on you "Wanker" because Boink don't need to tug it with your Momma coming by in the Morning and your Wife to go down on me in the afternoon!
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 763 weeks ago
Guest · 738 weeks ago
InfotainMe · 738 weeks ago
He's questioning journalistic ethics and telling people what to ask while pretending not to notice not one but two 900 lb gorillas in the room? That's just fabulous.
The good news is they're all on the same ship. Mason411, Mason, the current majority, and the developers who think they can buy variances through them. And they'll all sink on the same day at the exact same time of night. Everyone else will be dancing in the streets.
Yukka · 738 weeks ago
Grafix Avenger · 737 weeks ago
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/02/zimmer-...
InfotainMe · 737 weeks ago
Can we at least prevail upon whatever aspect of your own self-interest it is that would make you see how vile, offensive, inappropriate, distasteful, hurtful, and stupid the annual insult to dwarfs is? Forget the indecency issue - we all know that ship has sailed long ago - how about YOUR association with this jackass's pre-adolescent attempts at humor through bigoted savagery. It makes YOU look bad. You, you, you. We charge every one of these acts to YOUR account. Klaussen's an idiot of the 1st order. But YOU own him. His mess is YOURS. You need barely to pick up the phone and it will stop. Will you do that much?
deleted5542758 83p · 737 weeks ago
I find it deplorable to put up an ad such as the one Perry the joke did. WOW
Tony, open invite. Party starts at 10am and goes all day.
ss1959 · 737 weeks ago
Guest · 737 weeks ago
Of course the Reporter article left out out lunatic conspiracy theories about Zimmer, Dr Metsch, etc....
New Guy · 737 weeks ago
The basis of today's Reporter story about the hospital was a press release from failed bidder, P3. The press release included quotes from "Dr. Bill Bithoney, P3's planned HUMC CEO." This is an obvious, veiled challenge to the Hospital Authority to identify publicly the intended CEO under the exclusive proposal that is now being negotiated.
Will the Authority demostrate some transparency and do it? And what about other members of the planned leadership team under the proposal? When will we learn about those individuals - perhaps after the sale is complete?
New Guy · 737 weeks ago
It's worrisome to me to read comments like "Why do we care?" and "We don't care who runs it so long as ..." If that's the way we really feal about our city/community, then maybe we should resurrect the career of Anthony Russo or allow his son to take over "so long as ... "
MasonStein · 737 weeks ago
ss1959 · 736 weeks ago
InfotainMe · 736 weeks ago
Guest · 736 weeks ago
Eat Cro..zier · 736 weeks ago
Hurt the deal, Help Mason, kill Hoboken Financially
Guest · 736 weeks ago
deleted8670214 100p · 736 weeks ago
Mark · 735 weeks ago
Average Hoboken · 735 weeks ago
I will not set foot in Club KO.
I will not eat at Margherita's or Mike Squared.
I will not use Frank Marciano.
I will not buy anything from W. Kodak Jewelers.
I will not use Empire Realty.
I will not use E Mazzanti Technologies.
and of course - I will NEVER vote for Beth Mason.
But as far as calling Perry a tax evader - thats a bit over the line, Kurt.
BokenFan · 735 weeks ago
Guest · 735 weeks ago
Flaussen · 735 weeks ago
5. hoboken411
March 5th, 2011 |
Stats for the live chat: 17,684 people pressed “play” to watch – and we shared 2,034 comments amongst each other in 8 hours.
Hoboken411 pageviews for today so far: 197,081 (average daily readership is 100,000).
17,684 press play and 5 commented? Who is he fooling? I love his lies. A jump like that and you hide your rankings?
deleted8670214 100p · 735 weeks ago
Guest · 735 weeks ago
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deleted4079745 90p · 732 weeks ago
What's the reference to a "dog abandoner"?