The Hoboken Journal: Hoboken Journal on The Beat- Franz Paetzold Gets Petitions in Kings Supermarket

Sunday, March 6, 2011

Hoboken Journal on The Beat- Franz Paetzold Gets Petitions in Kings Supermarket

Update 3-6-2011: Franz was working outside his unofficial HQ The Hudson Tavern yesterday. A reader sent this photo in of Franz chatting up someone in Kings Supermarket uptown yesterday in order to get another petition signed.

Franz Paetzold still gathering petitions for his 2nd Ward run.

Since Hudson Tavern just coincidentally happens to be one of my night spots on Saturdays, I went up there to unwind after a long day of taking pictures and video of the St. Patrick's Day Parade for the The Boken (www.thebokenonline.com ). I did run into Franz again who does frequent the establishment on weekends as well and we had a cordial conversation. I did not question him on his platform (I am saving that question for later) but I was able to get a few things clarified:

Franz still intends to run and will not run a campaign that takes outside contributions.
The Hoboken Journal posters "Campaign Manager" and "Incinerous" are not in any way affiliated with his campaign.
He did acknowledge that he is acquainted with Paul Lichtstein when the two met at Vassar in the 90s.
He did acknowledge this is the first time he has run for office.
He is not convinced that Tom Greaney is the candidate that will beat Beth Mason. He thinks he has a chance of winning the race.
As of this morning, Franz is still not up on the NJ Elections website as filing. He is not the only candidate that hasn't filed their 2011 campaign forms. For reference Mike Russo, Beth Mason and Terry Castellano still have not either for 2011.

Hoboken 2011 Election filers as of 3-6-2011

The filling deadline to get on the ballot for the May 10th City Council races is March 17th. Stay tuned.

My comment and assessment: I do believe that Franz is sincere in his efforts to run a self-funded campaign. Maybe most of the readers here feel that he doesn't have much of a shot. He does not have the name recognition of Beth Mason but that shouldn't stop some one from trying to get involved in local politics. The Hoboken Journal stands by a person's right to run for political office. While I support Tom Greaney as a candidate, it will be up to Tom to meet as many people as possible and get the support regardless of how many other candidates throw their hat in the ring. Readers: Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Update 3/1/2011: Due to comment volume and discussion interest this post has been bumped up.

Orginal Post 2/20/2011:

Hoboken Journal Exclusive- Franz Paetzold to

run in the 2nd Ward

Franz Paetzold, an Associate Director in the Group Internal Audit division at a large bank in the area has picked up his petitions from Hoboken City Hall and is running for Hoboken's 2nd Ward City Council. I ran into him briefly last night and he had a stack of the green forms in his hand. I asked him if he knew the other candidates and he simply said, "I am in it to win it".

He has not filed his NJ ELECs as of today but is working to get his required signatures. He joins incumbent Beth Mason and challenger Tom Greaney. His inclusion in the race should he get his petitions in on time make it a three way race and most likely guarantee a runoff in June.

2nd Ward Candidate Franz Paetzold

Franz Paetzold from his Facebook Page

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HobokenReformer · 737 weeks ago

Mr. Paetzold, have you ever heard of the concept of "splitting the vote"? You and Mr. Greaney are going to do just that, and the ethically challenged, intellectually limited councilwoman will beat you both. What a fantastic service to the reform movement you are doing here!

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4Hoboken · 737 weeks ago

Why is there a guaranteed runoff? Hoboken voters catch on fast and this guy is going to appeal to who exactly?

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Potatopancake · 737 weeks ago

Ain't signing no petition for Franz.

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InfotainMe · 737 weeks ago

RG, can you tell us anything about this candidate? For example, if he were not running himself is he more likely to vote for Mason or Greaney?

I'll just say this. Ms Mason has a lot of $$ and isn't shy about spending it. For anything. When the petitions come in they should be scanned for concentrations of Mason loyalists.

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FAP 82p · 737 weeks ago

Guys, Mr. Paetzold has every right to run and I for one welcome more participation. Having spoken to Tom Greaney I doubt anything could shake my support of him but I'm glad to see more voices joining the call to remove Beth Mason.

We all should look forward to seeing Mr.Paetzold's platform and ideas. More participation is the key to preventing a Russo or Roberts from ever being elected again.

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deleted9879414 85p · 737 weeks ago

I think acting like a bunch of rabid dogs and complaining that someone wants to join the race helps no one.

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hullabaloo · 737 weeks ago

Perhaps this will force Mason to work 2x as hard and that might keep her if not her $ out of other ward races. I wouldn't be surprised to see many more 3rd candidates enter the various ward races.

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ss1959 · 737 weeks ago

Don't know the guy, but this is America and everyone has a right to run. I support Tom, but will listen to what he says. Don't jump down his throat or make accusations unless you know it to be true.

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Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 737 weeks ago

Everyone- When I spoke to Franz I asked him if he knew about the candidates already running in the 2nd Ward. He knew Beth Mason but he did not know Tom Greaney. I only spoke to him briefly but I think he is somone that has been watching meetings and has decided to run based on what he sees (presumably from Beth Mason). He did mention that the one councilman he admires is Ravi Bhalla so I suggest that we can lay the conspiracy theories to rest. I am fairly certain this will not be the only race where a new comer decides to throw their hat in the ring.

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deleted4079745 90p · 737 weeks ago

We're supposed to believe that 78 days away from election a new candidate tosses their hat in the ring and thinks they have a resaonable chance? Not likely, unless he really is that dumb. It's more likely that this is a tactic by the she-bitch of Hudson Street and her paid handlers.

This maneuver by Mason would not be viable if Hoboken had "instant runoffs" which are used in many municipalities. It's high time Hoboken had them too so we can stop the endless cycle of campaigning and get our elected officials back to their sworn duties sooner.

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Hobbs · 737 weeks ago

What is truly sad is that Mrs. Mason has so fouled any political race that she has been involved that any conspiracy theory is now viable.

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Hobbs · 737 weeks ago

Mason only real advantage is her and her husband's vast wealth to buy the services of Hoboken's old political machines which in turn use her to try stay in power.

One must remember that Mrs. Mason has been losing her race with the truth votes over the last few elections. Her handlers attempts to drastic re-branding of her image is proof that even they understand Mrs. Mason is unliked by the vast majority of Second Ward voters.

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CampaignMgr · 736 weeks ago

Franz stands for "Leadership for a Change" he dosen't owe anyone anything and won't accept any campaign contributions for this election. He's in it to win it not take votes away from other candidates. As a matter of fact Franz received a call from councilman Bhalia asking him to reconsider and drop out of the race because the Zimmer Administration is going full tilt to rid of the current majority council. Franz told Bhalia that he would not reconsider nad he's going foward with this election. Bhalia them made Franz an offer which Franz refused. Bhalia is nothing but another corrupt polititian thats needs to go.

VOTE FRANZ for 2nd Ward!!!

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InfotainMe · 736 weeks ago

A couple of suggestions. Use a name. Hiding behind campaign manager won't work.

Find out who is on the council. There's no one named Bhalia.

Look up libel in the dictionary.

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CampaignMgr · 736 weeks ago

Ravi Bhalia is not on the council?

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CampaignMgr · 736 weeks ago

My bad I mis-spelled Bhalia by one letter it should be Bhalla, well if you didn't know who I meant then your are the dumb ass here.

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InfotainMe · 736 weeks ago

PS - Joey. That's the name you used when you posted this BS on 411. http://hoboken411.com/archives/59745#comment-2038...

"A friend of mine picked up a petition to run against Mason, he gets a call from that sleazeball Bhalia asking him to withdraw his petition because he dosen’t want votes being taken away from the candidate Bhalia and Zimmer put up. Then he tells him that as a payback Bhalia will put him on the ballot when he runs for mayor. This guy Bhalia is such a scum of the earth he needs to go NOW….."

Bhalia told Franz that he's running for mayor and will put him on the ticket? This Bhalia is quite a fool, no? Announced he was running for mayor and gave up a council seat on a quick phone call?

You did the right thing peddling it on 411. They eat that sh!t up. Bon appetit.

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khoboken · 736 weeks ago

This is too effing crazy. Has to be a punked job. You certainly are not this stupid are you? If you are, just go over to the city website and look up the names of the current council members. There is no Bahlia.

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CampaignMgr · 736 weeks ago

khoboken you must be another dumbass for not knowing that Bhalia is Bhalla it was mispelled by one letter shoot me. IDIOT!!!

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CampaignMgr · 736 weeks ago

Current councilmembers:

Carol Marsh
David Mello
Elizabeth Mason
Michael Russo
Nino Giacchi
Peter Cunningham
Ravinder S. Bhalla
Theresa Castellano
Tim Occhipinti

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InfotainMe · 736 weeks ago

Like I said, enough about spelling.

Tell us about your friend, Franz, Joey.

What kind of change is he bringing?
What does he see as Mason's specific failures, since she is the incumbent?
What doesn't he like about Greaney, about whom not a lot is known?
What are Franz's hot-button issues?

Surely you didn't just log on here to call potential voters dumbasses? Don't they have a section on that in the Campaign Manager Manual?

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FAP 82p · 736 weeks ago

Guys, Franz Paetzold has the same right to run for Council against Beth mason that Dawn Zimmer had to run against Beth Mason for Mayor. Let's not forget some of Mason's camp called Mayor Zimmer a spoiler too.

Frankly these attacks on Mr.Paetzold and the person purporting to be his camaign manger reflect poorly on this community. Mr.Paetzold has the abosulte right to run and to voice his opinions when running. Mr.Paetzold should be welcomed to the fight to remove Beth Mason and to improve Hoboken. If we can't do that then let's at least be respectful when a first time candidate is trying to put together a platform.

-Forde Prigot

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Insider · 736 weeks ago

Franz was in a few bars trying to get signatures from people. A lot of the girls he tried to talk to totally blew him off and some boyfriends got really pissed off too. If you have difficulty reaching citizens in a bar where you live then you shouldn't be looking for public office. Another Mason puppet playing dumb, what's next?

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TonyH · 736 weeks ago

It's unbelievable that his "campaign Manager" would already be hurling obscenities at voters and not disclosing his name

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OLDNEWCOMER2 · 736 weeks ago

The 'right to run' gets old really fast. Sure anyone has the right, but more than 2 candidates in that race helps Mason.

I've lived in Hoboken 24yrs and never heard of Tom Greaney. We don't live under a rock; friends of ours are friends with politico's, but we don't talk politics much with our friends, and are typical 'busy' people not that focused on civic life. Not to say that's the way to be, but more activist types should keep in mind how steeply name recognition falls off once you get below fame/infamy like Zimmer/Mason, especially among new newcomer voters. Some of them will vote for Paetzold because he, like they is younger than Greaney, if Greaney's profile isn't raised a lot. A lot will vote for Mason if she's still the only one they've really heard of.

Zimmer's movement is going to have a do a good job of old fashioned campaigning behind a single slate of candidates in order to win back that council majority. I support them but it's still to be proven to me they have the political skill to make real change in this city; they slipped up with Lenz, now a bigger test is coming up.

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khoboken · 736 weeks ago

So FIn Boy (CampaignMgr/Joey) surfaced here to spread a alittle of his uncharming personality and all around freakazoid character. I guess flamng out of law school and getting frorm City Hall in Weehawken has left a bunch of extra time for him to work on the stupoid pet tricks that are the hallmarks of any Bet Mazin campaign. Ugh, what a pathetic creature and a life. I wonder if he will be the campaign mascot this time, the Mazin Gerbil.

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in the know · 736 weeks ago

You guys do realize that more than just Baracatta and Lane are posting anti reform stuff right? You do know that more than 3 people are against us? Instead of trying to guess/out everyone, how about you just respond to their assertions and move on. You sound as dumb as they do.

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Incineratus · 736 weeks ago

Part 1 -
I spoke with Mr. Paetzold last Saturday at the Hudson Tavern. Let me share what I learned:

He claims to not be connected with any local town politician. He is also adamant that he will not accept help or donations from people or entities outside of the 2nd Ward. In his words he wants to run a clean and pure campaign that is devoid of outside interests.

The younger voters do seem to like him. When I spoke with him there were a couple of people he introduced me to who were in their young 30’s who are definitely going to vote for him. It also looks like he feels at home communicating with this segment of the town population.

He told me his most important theme is Hoboken First. I asked him what that meant and he responded that if elected he will only vote in a way that places the needs of the city first. This means he could care less about political allegiances. This also means that if this guy actually gets elected (a long shot) the council composition could look something like 4 – 4- 1.

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Incineratus · 736 weeks ago

Part 2 -
The problem for Greaney and Mason is that Paetzold’s Hoboken First position gives him the moral upper hand. Voters know that Greaney and Mason are going to vote according to political lines; however, Paetzold is going to vote for what he believes is best for Hoboken.

He said he has tremendous admiration for Councilman Bhalla and that anyone who says otherwise does not represent him. Unfortunately he also respects Beth Mason. He has not met Tom Greaney. He also said that his supporters have also not heard of Tom Greaney.

Apparently Paetzold and Lichtenstein went to Vassar College together back in the 90’s. He and Paul have remained distant friends since that time. (I checked this out and yes both did attend Vassar College at the same time). I am still suspicious of this friendship and I look forward to learning about what others can find.

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Incineratus · 736 weeks ago

Part 3 -
I signed his petition originally to get him off guard and learn more about him. I wanted to get some good dirt. In retrospect I am somewhat ashamed of my actions. There is something good about this guy; something this town has not seen in awhile and I am starting to wonder. He may still have a lot to learn about Hoboken politics. But is that such a bad thing?

Originally I planned on voting for Mr. Greaney because Mason has to go. But folks –I am not so sure anymore. Greaney is sitting on his but…at least this guy is out there shaking hands with people. I am waiting for Franz to deliver a platform. He is still new and looks like he is trying to build one. I’d like to hear more from him.

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Incineratus · 736 weeks ago

Part 4 -
Also- - rumor has it that people in the Mason camp are keeping a wary eye on Mr. Paetzold. They are even preparing for the possibility that Paetzold will take the role of lead challenger. His name has already made it onto their discussion tables. They are afraid that if his campaign gets and serious traction that he may wind up posing the larger threat because of his political purity, and appeal to young voters and voters who want change. Right now as we speak they are looking into who he is and preparing for ways to attack him. This shows how desperate Mason has become – to begin plotting the destruction of a political new comer who has not even officially gotten onto the ballot yet.

One word of caution – people love baby seals and they hate anyone who tries to club a baby seal to death.

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douser · 736 weeks ago

Incineratus, how much did Ms. Mason pay you to write this? Or otherwise, where are you buying whatever it is you're smoking? This is clever, but transparent. Just a bit too forced. Needs to be a little more subtle next time.

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putz fackeztold · 736 weeks ago

this sounds like a redhaven/mrs blowhardi style post

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guest1 · 736 weeks ago

Has whomever he is connected with, informed Mr. Paetzold that when his name is googled, everything on the blogs will pop up? I am sure that UBS googles their employees as would many of the UBS clients. Financial reporting is also mandatory for all employees in most brokerage firms.

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p1ywood 98p · 736 weeks ago

Dear Incineratus,
Thank you for your submission for our assignment "Fifth Grade Fantasy Hoboken 2nd Ward Election Docu-drama". Unfortunately, the "voice" used in the piece is illogical and seems to completely not understand some things, such as how to enter into a plausible candidacy, yet seems to understand other things completely, such as campaign strategy. Moreover, it reads as a sketchy take of what, say, the Mason campaign, would have us think about what a mysterious, "wet-behind-the-ears Boy Scout-like" challenger to a key segment of reform's voting block would conveniently do, whose faceless come-lately candidacy comes from nowhere and serendipitously hits a "sweet spot" of the electorate. To be fair, we will consider it, for use lets say, in an article in "Highlights" magazine, so we will keep your submission in mind, but for use we will have to improve it's credibility greatly. However, you will share only partially, not fully, in a writing credit, since your creative work is much too derivative of the recently penned 4th Ward Occhipinti campaign.
Unfortunately, I am also hereby issuing a warning notice that you are failing our class, since I told you repeatedly your constant talking on your cell phone to political operatives during the creative writing class period would affect your comprehension, and this submission, being "D-" work, bears that out.
I await the day you think our class assignments and Hoboken's elections are not a joke to be rushed through half-heartedly at the last minute, portrayed with an implausible cock-and-bull cliche sensibility. In the meanwhile, please print out your four blog entries and have them signed by a parent.

-Ply Wood, 5th Grade Team Teacher

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ss1959 · 736 weeks ago

I met Franz at the council meeting. Didn't discuss politics. He stayed for about 1-1/2 hours and departed. Take from that what you will. Actually stood in front of Tom and probably didn't know it.

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BethTakeManhattan · 736 weeks ago

1-1/2 hours and departed.

That's community involvement!

What a Putzhold!

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Cupid · 736 weeks ago

This is pretty cut and dry. This candidacy is obviously a flim-flam.

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Grafix Avenger · 735 weeks ago

I'm looking forward to the debate(s), should be fascinating.

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ss1959 · 735 weeks ago

Yes GA Beth Mason's lies will no doubt be amusing. Scary, but amusing.

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Oink · 735 weeks ago

Big Guy someone as large as you should not be frequenting bars and indulging in alcohol. I don't need to tell you this since your doctor's already warned you about what hypertension leads too. Instead of hitting the bars how about hitting the treadmill, you will live longer and be happier in life.

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Guest · 735 weeks ago

Franz has been asked to leave many uptown bars. Staff / Owners have found him to be a "nuisance". Kings asked him to leave too. Maybe he'll hang out in Ship Yard cleaners now?

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Guest · 732 weeks ago

Saw Franz at an uptown bar this past weekend. Completely trashed and slurring about xy and z. I really hope nobody take this guy serious.

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