The woman identified the person handling the issue as none other than Larry Stempler who is on the NJDC Board as well as being a previous donor to Beth Mason's political campaigns in the past. She told me on Friday that Larry would get back to me as soon as he could and after following up on Monday November 22, 2010 I did receive a phone call from Larry Stempler himself in the afternoon. This update addresses the substance of that conversation that was mostly on the record. I did not get some of the key answers I was looking for but was able to get the following from Larry....
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Larry Stempler of the NJDC |
When asked about the process of how this came to his attention or the attention of the NJDC, Mr. Stempler declined to comment. He then stated " I can see where this is going and yes I am an colleague of Beth Mason's". He also added that he "doesn't read the blogs" so then one could logically conclude that Larry did not himself actually discover Nancy's piece but rather it was forwarded to his attention via his organization or some outside entity.
I pressed further and reminded him that the NJDC article contained a link to Hoboken 411, which has its own share of hateful speech against individuals and various types of people. He answered saying he is not familiar with that website. So the questions still remain about how does the NJDC go about the editorial process when condemning the acts of various people, and how did Nancy's piece get forwarded to this organization, and by whom? The only thing conclusive I was able to get from this interview is that the answers are not going to come from Larry Stempler and that his organization wants to move on from this issue.
In concluding the phone interview with Larry Stempler I wanted to make a point that when his organization condemns an individual's actions what they deem as inappropriate acts it can be harmful to that person if the full context of their piece is not revealed. I also added that there was a recent incident in Hoboken where a bullet next to a sign blaming the Jews for 9/11 was placed in Pier A Park and that the way this piece was being used locally for political purposes could undermine his organization's overall message. He stated he was not aware of the incident but disagreed with my assessment. He did acknowledge that the blog post on the NJDC website had generated local interest and attention to his organization. He concluded this line of the conversation near the end of it by quoting Tip O'Niel, "All politics is local".
The interview wound down from there.
Also, in a brief phone conversation with Mike Novak two weeks ago, I was able to corroborate Nancy's story that Mike Novak did reach out to her to warn her that people were upset with her graphic before the NJDC piece was published. Mike Novak did not mention who was offended. Also worth noting is the fact that to this date, and to the best of my knowledge, Beth Mason has made no statement to the public about this even though a local website NJ.com confirmed Beth had reached out to the NJ ADL to "shop out" this story.
This quote from the Jersey Journal (NJ.com Hoboken Now) article confirms that Beth Mason shopped the story (at least to the ADL):
"Following a conversation with Etzion Neuer, regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League, Pincus said later that she realized how her graphic may have caused offense and agreed to issue a letter of apology at Neuer's request.
"I welcomed and accepted Ms. Pincus' apology and from our conversation, it appears she understands why the incident was hurtful," said Neuer.
Neuer said he first heard about the graphic through Mason who pointed out it out to him last week before Bajardi's presentation before the council."
Link to full piece: http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html
Final Comment: Beth Mason's silence on this issue is deafening. Of course, there is always the ever bloviating Lane Bajardi to do her dirty work.
Original Post 11/19/2010 : Below is a letter from Nancy Pincus to the National Jewish Democratic Council regarding her graphic depicting Beth Mason and Timothy Occhipinti in a parody of a German poster Triumph of The Will (1934). Although her graphic was meant to be a play on words the NJDC thought differently and posted this article on their national website: http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/njdccondemnspincus111710.
Here is Nancy Pincus' response to the NJDC:
Board of Directors
National Jewish Democratic Council
Dear Board Members:
I am writing in response to a posting on your organization’s website, written by Larry Streeter, which personally condemned me for a graphic that I used on my personal blog, grafixavenger.blogspot.com. The graphic was intended as a satirical statement relating to the ascension or “triumph” of a political candidate over low expectations a in a Hoboken political race. I am Jewish and lost close family in the Holocaust. I certainly did not mean to offend or impugn anybody on the basis of their Jewish faith. To the extent my work caused genuine offense to any individual, I offer my sincere apologies. In the future, I will certainly give stronger consideration to whether my work may unintentionally offend people of good will.
I can only observe, however, that much if not all of the outrage over my graphic has come from individuals with obvious political agendas. The use of false accusations of anti-Semitism for political ends is abhorrent, because it diminishes our credibility when we speak out against the real anti-Semitism that sadly still exists. Unfortunately, Hoboken has suffered from several incidents in the past year where anti-Semitic graffiti appeared in town. Adding politically motivated accusations of anti-Semitism can only fan those flames.It must be noted that Larry Stempler, a member of your board, has contributed $1,500 to the Hoboken political campaigns of Elizabeth Mason, despite not being a Hoboken resident. The graphic in question was a political criticism of Mrs. Mason and her political faction, who recently engaged in a municipal election where significant allegations of voter fraud have been made. A criminal referral has been made by the local Board of Elections to the prosecutor’s office regarding the election. Two of the past three mayors of Hoboken have been sent to federal prison for corruption, which included the sale of zoning variances. I sit on the Hoboken Zoning Board, and Ms. Mason is part of group that generally is supportive of the practices of the two former mayors that were sent to prison. I am decidedly not part of that group and have used my personal blog site to express my outrage at political corruption and voter fraud. Because of voiced opinions opposing corruption, I have been targeted by Ms. Mason and her associates for removal from the Zoning Board. This is the context in which your organization was approached and pitched a story about the allegedly fascist Nancy Pincus.
Mr. Stempler’s relationship to Mrs. Mason raises serious questions as to the objectivity of your organization’s decision to get involved and to condemn me, personally, without ever talking to me or having tried to contact me. At a minimum, Mr. Stemplar’s relationship to Mrs. Mason should have been clearly disclosed, together with whatever role Mr. or Mrs. Mason has played in the process of making that decision. If Mrs. Mason or her family are contributors to your organization, such relationship raises serious issues about the availability, for a price, of personal condemnations for political purposes issued by your organization.
I respectfully request that you take all appropriate action to address these serious issues, including, at a minimum immediately prominently posting this letter, in its entirety, on your website. I would also welcome the opportunity to meet with any person or persons from your organization to discuss the graphic which resulted in my personal condemnation and the manner and process in which you personally condemn members of the Jewish community.
Very truly yours,
Nancy Pincus
NJ.com followed up with a story that has this from Etzion Neuer from the NJ Anti-Defamation League:
Following a conversation with Etzion Neuer, regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League, Pincus said later that she realized how her graphic may have caused offense and agreed to issue a letter of apology at Neuer's request.
"I welcomed and accepted Ms. Pincus' apology and from our conversation, it appears she understands why the incident was hurtful," said Neuer.
Neuer said he first heard about the graphic through Mason who pointed out it out to him last week before Bajardi's presentation before the council.
"I am genuinely sorry," Pincus said this afternoon. "I did not mean to hurt anyone who's genuine. I'm not talking about the political operatives."
Link to complete article:
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html
My Comment: I know Nancy Pincus personally and I can vouch for the fact that I do believe her account in that the graphic was meant as a play on words and not as an anti-Semitic attack on Beth Mason. After all Nancy Pincus is Jewish, tolerant and pretty liberal to boot. With that said her choice in graphic was not politically savvy to say the least and is being used to attack the reform movement. At this point I'm not going to take a stand on the validity of her allegations on Mr. Stempler. There will be more on this story later as a representative of NJDC promised me that someone would get back to me after I reached out to the NJDC personally yesterday. I appreciate the fact that they have acknowledged my inquiry and look forward to the discussion. ◦

Arthur · 749 weeks ago
bird · 749 weeks ago
InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago
Needless to say, NJDC did not find my post worthy of publication.
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 749 weeks ago
Sent from my iPhone
p1ywood 98p · 749 weeks ago
Hoboken Jew · 749 weeks ago
bird · 749 weeks ago
For me the point is we are all being played by Beth and she has not said a word. Perhaps GA intension san picture was SPOT ON
khoboken · 749 weeks ago
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 749 weeks ago
Here are some fascist-like examples from the not so dynamic duo: Lane told people at City Council Meeting that they had to clap for Tim Occhipinti in what appears to be his sham electoral victory based on the allegations if proven. How Fascist is that? Telling people to clap? What is next? Telling them what to say? How to vote at $40 a pop? How to think>
Doesn't anyone remember when Saddam Hussein executed members of parlaiment when they failed to clap when he came to power?
Perry Klaussen's spin of the truth and distortion of facts and controlling commenting policy certainly aren't very democratic. His national plitics may be libertarian but his behavior on his own website has certainly earned him cyber-furher for his ironclad control of information. No longer is open discourse allowed. Hence his traffic is way down. Facism up!
I generally don't believe in charater assassination on this blog but since these two ministers of hate don't have any character there is nothing to assassinate.
ss1959 · 749 weeks ago
p1ywood 98p · 749 weeks ago
should the process of denouncing insensitivity ever be used as an enabler to manhandling other people?
InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago
And I bet you know the quote from Mr Eliot.
To me there is nothing worse than to raise the spectre of bias, racisim, anti-semitism, etc, where they do not exist simply to provoke an emotional reaction. Because they do in fact exist. And each time this is done in the name of short term advantage, the long term cause of true equality suffers.
Because of the actions of the NJDC, the cause of anti-defamation is actually weaker this morning. All those assembled on these blogs will make up their own minds. And most see this stunt for what it is - a favor in which people who know the true ravages of discrimination allow their cause to be prostituted. And many will now wonder how often that happens.
Mr Stempler, meet Mr Sharpton. You two have much to discuss.
guest · 749 weeks ago
Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago
As a PAC, you have to ask yourself, what was the motivation behind doing what they did to GA?
guest · 749 weeks ago
guest · 749 weeks ago
NJ TRANSIT?????
Hobbs · 749 weeks ago
He said he was against their mega building project ? Then he takes thousands ?
When Beth Mason sent Lane Bajardi and Inez Keim to work for Timmy as her extra vote you had to expect Richard Mason's check book to follow. Waitng untill after the election to show the cash by these people looks more than a little like they want ti hide the money connection.
bird · 749 weeks ago
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TonyH · 749 weeks ago
The comment by an audience member, "I don't want my Italian Deli's getting replaced by Jew Deli's" stood out for me.
TonyH · 749 weeks ago
OLDNEWCOMER2 · 749 weeks ago
Dumb stuff down is what they do. I don't know if it will continue to work for Mason because she's pissed a lot of people off and really isn't just another Italian Joisy Girl; I'll leave it others to say whether she's really Jewish. But dumbing down still works in Hoboken generally: see Tim O.
BNR Italian is a tribe; same way somebody would say Mason isn't really Jewish, even without doubting her religious sincerity. Hardcore Italian BNR's aren't church goers IME. Anyway, old guardism is mainly about Italian rule now and forever in Hoboken, with non-white project dwellers and a few Irish BNR remnants as useful idiots. It's nothing to do with Catholic.
bird · 749 weeks ago
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Grafix Avenger · 749 weeks ago
The issue of separating political malevolence from pure emotional responses to the poster image I used once it was widely disseminated and linked back to the hit-piece on H411 has been the big challenge for me. As you may imagine, I've been furious at the political hit job orchestrated, at the same time have had to acknowledge unintentional hurt for others who are offended by the source image. And have apologized to those who were hurt.
One thing does not dilute the other. I will expose what Mason-Bajardi have done to me. Oh, yes. SHe planted that hit-piece linking to H411 on the NJDC, a Washington PAC she donated $1,000 to, and her own fundraiser and donor sits on their Board of Directors. Mike Novak was part of it, too. No, i am going to expose what was done to me and thank goodness, I have help.
Here's my latest:
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-pay...
As for the other matter, the use of the poster-image, I've apologized publicly and privately. There is nothing more I can do. It's time to move on.
guest · 749 weeks ago
Angry white males in their mid 30s who cannot keep a job or relationship
FAP, Roman ...get a life
khoboken · 749 weeks ago
Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago
p1ywood 98p · 749 weeks ago
Just wish you had told me before I did my camo makeup.
Later BFFs!
InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago
http://www.nj.com/forums/hoboken/index.ssf?extlin... http://www.nj.com/forums/hoboken/index.ssf?extlin...
Can you even find a recent post from either of them on this site?
Boink · 749 weeks ago
I cannot really see it so can you put up a Klaussen/Mussolini graphic with Lane sitting on his shoulders or something with a Nazi getup and a Hitler mustache?
I suggest you and Nancy Drew get togheter on a cooperative effort, ya know blogging, avenging, and all and heck who knows that
could even lead to some boinking? I heard Nancy was single and apparently takes a shine to "reporters" so perhaps you can win her over with a
few shiny gifts like a roll of tinfoil, and a crystal ball.
I know I know I should not be trying to play matchmaker here, but I figured you two "kids"
might enjoy a little craziness toghether in each other pants....
Hobbs · 749 weeks ago
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 749 weeks ago
I have already stated on the record that Nancy's grafix was ill advised but I hate to tell you that as a matchmaker your recon stinks. Nancy is happily married and it is my policy to only extend friendship to married woman. It is bad karma to engage at any other level. I would also like to inform you that if your sexual preference is very tall overweight but devilishly handsome and intelligent men such as myself, you are barking up the wrong tree. To each his own I always say but I just don't want you to get your hopes up on my availability. I only like single and available women in the appropriate age range, namely 30 years and up. The trick is to get them to like me.
Take your psycho-sexual patho-babble to the website meant for such low brow whiskey entangled discourse Hobroken41anddone.com.
Have a happy turkey day operative!
Sent from my iPhone
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 749 weeks ago
I have already stated on the record that Nancy's grafix was ill advised but I hate to tell you that as a matchmaker your recon stinks. Nancy is happily married and it is my policy to only extend friendship to married woman. It is bad karma to engage at any other level. I would also like to inform you that if your sexual preference is very tall overweight but devilishly handsome and intelligent men such as myself, you are barking up the wrong tree. To each his own I always say but I just don't want you to get your hopes up on my availability. I only like single and available women in the appropriate age range, namely 30 years and up. The trick is to get them to like me.
Take your psycho-sexual patho-babble to the website meant for such low brow whiskey entangled discourse Hobroken41anddone.com.
Have a happy turkey day operative!
Sent from my iPhone
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khoboken · 749 weeks ago
Did I miss your interview with Mr. Stempler and someone from NJDC? Or, as I bet a friend, they never called you back.
Gardiner4Hoboken 90p · 749 weeks ago
bird · 748 weeks ago
EasyE · 748 weeks ago
In a sense they are right, it's really more or less making light of a time in history where people did truly horrible things to each other, I can understand why they might have a problem with it, and that is their prerogative.
The people who are wrong are those that politically motivated Hoboken folks who choose to blow things out of proportion, in my opinion is hypocritical. I never heard anyone decry Nazi-fying images of Obama or Bush, so I suspect that they are just full of ****, to be blunt.
bird · 748 weeks ago
bird · 748 weeks ago