Thursday, December 2, 2010

Update: The Curious Case of Nancy Pincus and Larry Stempler of the NJDC and the Deafening Silence of Beth Mason

Update 12/2/2010: As I have stated previously, I had reached out to the NJDC on Thursday November 18 and did get a response on Friday November 19 from a woman responsible for the NY area of the NJDC on the piece on their website that their organization did condemning the graphic done by Nancy Pincus on her website graphixavenger.blogspot.com.

The woman identified the person handling the issue as none other than Larry Stempler who is on the NJDC Board as well as being a previous donor to Beth Mason's political campaigns in the past. She told me on Friday that Larry would get back to me as soon as he could and after following up on Monday November 22, 2010 I did receive a phone call from Larry Stempler himself in the afternoon. This update addresses the substance of that conversation that was mostly on the record. I did not get some of the key answers I was looking for but was able to get the following from Larry....

Larry Stempler of the NJDC
Larry first and foremost expressed interest in moving on from this issue. He felt that his organization rightfully condemned the acts of Mrs. Pincus with respect to use of Nazi imagery in making political points. He did acknowledge that his organization normally goes after right-wing targets for similar issues but he thought it would be hypocritical of his organization not condemn someone on the left side of the political fence as well for those types of communications. He was also satisfied with the apology of Nancy Pincus, considered the matter closed, and reiterated that he was looking forward to moving on from this issue.

When asked about the process of how this came to his attention or the attention of the NJDC, Mr. Stempler declined to comment. He then stated  " I can see where this is going and yes I am an colleague of Beth Mason's".  He also added that he "doesn't read the blogs" so then one could logically conclude that Larry did not himself  actually discover Nancy's piece but rather it was forwarded to his attention via his organization or some outside entity.

I pressed further and reminded him that the NJDC article contained a link to Hoboken 411, which has its own share of hateful speech against individuals and various types of people. He answered saying he is not familiar with that website. So the questions still remain about how does the NJDC go about the editorial process when condemning the acts of various people, and how did Nancy's piece get forwarded to this organization, and by whom? The only thing conclusive I was able to get from this interview is that the answers are not going to come from Larry Stempler and that his organization wants to move on from this issue.

In concluding the phone interview with Larry Stempler I wanted to make a point that when his organization condemns an individual's actions what they deem as inappropriate acts it can be harmful to that person if the full context of their piece is not revealed. I also added that there was a recent incident in Hoboken where a bullet next to a sign blaming the Jews for 9/11 was placed in Pier A Park and that the way this piece was being used locally for political purposes could undermine his organization's overall message. He stated he was not aware of the incident but disagreed with my assessment. He did acknowledge that the blog post on the NJDC website had generated local interest and attention to his organization. He concluded this line of the conversation near the end of it by quoting Tip O'Niel, "All politics is local".

The interview wound down from there.

Also, in a brief phone conversation with Mike Novak two weeks ago, I was able to corroborate Nancy's story that Mike Novak did reach out to her to warn her that people were upset with her graphic before the NJDC piece was published. Mike Novak did not mention who was offended. Also worth noting is the fact that to this date, and to the best of my knowledge, Beth Mason has made no statement to the public about this even though a local website NJ.com confirmed Beth had reached out to the NJ ADL to "shop out" this story.

This quote from the Jersey Journal (NJ.com  Hoboken Now) article confirms that Beth Mason shopped the story (at least to the ADL):

"Following a conversation with Etzion Neuer, regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League, Pincus said later that she realized how her graphic may have caused offense and agreed to issue a letter of apology at Neuer's request.

"I welcomed and accepted Ms. Pincus' apology and from our conversation, it appears she understands why the incident was hurtful," said Neuer.

Neuer said he first heard about the graphic through Mason who pointed out it out to him last week before Bajardi's presentation before the council."

Link to full piece: http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html

Final Comment: Beth Mason's silence on this issue is deafening. Of course, there is always the ever bloviating Lane Bajardi to do her dirty work.

Original Post 11/19/2010 : Below is a letter from Nancy Pincus to the National Jewish Democratic Council regarding her graphic depicting Beth Mason and Timothy Occhipinti in a parody of a German poster Triumph of The Will (1934). Although her graphic was meant to be a play on words the NJDC thought differently and posted this article on their national website: http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/njdccondemnspincus111710.

Here is Nancy Pincus' response to the NJDC:
Board of Directors
National Jewish Democratic Council

Dear Board Members:

I am writing in response to a posting on your organization’s website, written by Larry Streeter, which personally condemned me for a graphic that I used on my personal blog, grafixavenger.blogspot.com. The graphic was intended as a satirical statement relating to the ascension or “triumph” of a political candidate over low expectations a in a Hoboken political race. I am Jewish and lost close family in the Holocaust. I certainly did not mean to offend or impugn anybody on the basis of their Jewish faith. To the extent my work caused genuine offense to any individual, I offer my sincere apologies. In the future, I will certainly give stronger consideration to whether my work may unintentionally offend people of good will.

I can only observe, however, that much if not all of the outrage over my graphic has come from individuals with obvious political agendas. The use of false accusations of anti-Semitism for political ends is abhorrent, because it diminishes our credibility when we speak out against the real anti-Semitism that sadly still exists. Unfortunately, Hoboken has suffered from several incidents in the past year where anti-Semitic graffiti appeared in town. Adding politically motivated accusations of anti-Semitism can only fan those flames.
It must be noted that Larry Stempler, a member of your board, has contributed $1,500 to the Hoboken political campaigns of Elizabeth Mason, despite not being a Hoboken resident. The graphic in question was a political criticism of Mrs. Mason and her political faction, who recently engaged in a municipal election where significant allegations of voter fraud have been made. A criminal referral has been made by the local Board of Elections to the prosecutor’s office regarding the election. Two of the past three mayors of Hoboken have been sent to federal prison for corruption, which included the sale of zoning variances. I sit on the Hoboken Zoning Board, and Ms. Mason is part of group that generally is supportive of the practices of the two former mayors that were sent to prison. I am decidedly not part of that group and have used my personal blog site to express my outrage at political corruption and voter fraud. Because of voiced opinions opposing corruption, I have been targeted by Ms. Mason and her associates for removal from the Zoning Board. This is the context in which your organization was approached and pitched a story about the allegedly fascist Nancy Pincus.

Mr. Stempler’s relationship to Mrs. Mason raises serious questions as to the objectivity of your organization’s decision to get involved and to condemn me, personally, without ever talking to me or having tried to contact me. At a minimum, Mr. Stemplar’s relationship to Mrs. Mason should have been clearly disclosed, together with whatever role Mr. or Mrs. Mason has played in the process of making that decision. If Mrs. Mason or her family are contributors to your organization, such relationship raises serious issues about the availability, for a price, of personal condemnations for political purposes issued by your organization.

I respectfully request that you take all appropriate action to address these serious issues, including, at a minimum immediately prominently posting this letter, in its entirety, on your website. I would also welcome the opportunity to meet with any person or persons from your organization to discuss the graphic which resulted in my personal condemnation and the manner and process in which you personally condemn members of the Jewish community.

Very truly yours,
Nancy Pincus


NJ.com followed up with a story that has this from Etzion Neuer from the NJ Anti-Defamation League:

Following a conversation with Etzion Neuer, regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League, Pincus said later that she realized how her graphic may have caused offense and agreed to issue a letter of apology at Neuer's request.

"I welcomed and accepted Ms. Pincus' apology and from our conversation, it appears she understands why the incident was hurtful," said Neuer.

Neuer said he first heard about the graphic through Mason who pointed out it out to him last week before Bajardi's presentation before the council.

"I am genuinely sorry," Pincus said this afternoon. "I did not mean to hurt anyone who's genuine. I'm not talking about the political operatives."

Link to complete article:
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html

My Comment: I know Nancy Pincus personally and I can vouch for the fact that I do believe her account in that the graphic was meant as a play on words and not as an anti-Semitic attack on Beth Mason. After all Nancy Pincus is Jewish, tolerant and pretty liberal to boot. With that said her choice in graphic was not politically savvy to say the least and is being used to attack the reform movement. At this point I'm not going to take a stand on the validity of her allegations on Mr. Stempler.  There will be more on this story later as a representative of NJDC promised me that someone would get back to me after I reached out to the NJDC personally yesterday. I appreciate the fact that they have acknowledged my inquiry and look forward to the discussion. ◦
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Fantastic response by Nancy. However, I doubt very much that they will post it.
What the NJDC was wrong - they have lost credibility with this jew
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InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago

I posted on their site questioning why they linked to an identically worded hatchet job on 411 where they say 'view the graphic here' - instead of linking to GA. And the reason is that they, like 411, do not want you to really think about whether this case makes any sense. They want to link GA to fascism, intolerance, etc, and change the subject before you start doing the math.

Needless to say, NJDC did not find my post worthy of publication.
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Info- I just tried to post a second time. Hasn't gone through yet. First one did not go through. I called them and spoke to a pleasant woman today who told me I would be contacted by a person who has been handling this issue. Still haven't heard back yet. Will try again Monday.

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It took a lot of character to write that letter. This whole occurrence against, let's call it, for our purposes here, an under-sensitive Grafix Avenger image, is, in my view, less about the image itself, and more about posturing.
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Hoboken Jew · 749 weeks ago

As a jew myself I found the image deplorable at best. On the flip side i've also done things where I do not think before I do and found myself biting my lip. I, like Nancy did my best to apologize and make things right and over time everything settled and what was done is done and it is old news. Nancy, why don't you give photoshop a rest for a few months ok? On a side note I showed the image to other jewish residents in town, not one of them found it funny.
Well us hoboken jews will just have to disagree "deplorable at best" - what is deplorable is that a national jewish organization has been hijacked for cheap political ends - think they will or should apologize.

For me the point is we are all being played by Beth and she has not said a word. Perhaps GA intension san picture was SPOT ON
10 replies · active 749 weeks ago
Spot on. Absent the image - is there ANY disagreement with what GA said?
Not from me. Lane Bajardi and Perry Klaussen have performed their fair share of what could be construed as quintessentially fascist acts. I however personally would never equate then to being Nazi. Those two are just jerks or my personal favorite d-baggers. The word Nazi is a very special referrence to a specific time period and as we see from the NJDC can cause all sorts of uncessary confusion and pain.

Here are some fascist-like examples from the not so dynamic duo: Lane told people at City Council Meeting that they had to clap for Tim Occhipinti in what appears to be his sham electoral victory based on the allegations if proven. How Fascist is that? Telling people to clap? What is next? Telling them what to say? How to vote at $40 a pop? How to think>

Doesn't anyone remember when Saddam Hussein executed members of parlaiment when they failed to clap when he came to power?

Perry Klaussen's spin of the truth and distortion of facts and controlling commenting policy certainly aren't very democratic. His national plitics may be libertarian but his behavior on his own website has certainly earned him cyber-furher for his ironclad control of information. No longer is open discourse allowed. Hence his traffic is way down. Facism up!

I generally don't believe in charater assassination on this blog but since these two ministers of hate don't have any character there is nothing to assassinate.
You are correct Kurt, that's where I believe it originated.
Question from the peanut gallery -
should the process of denouncing insensitivity ever be used as an enabler to manhandling other people?
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InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago

The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.

And I bet you know the quote from Mr Eliot.

To me there is nothing worse than to raise the spectre of bias, racisim, anti-semitism, etc, where they do not exist simply to provoke an emotional reaction. Because they do in fact exist. And each time this is done in the name of short term advantage, the long term cause of true equality suffers.

Because of the actions of the NJDC, the cause of anti-defamation is actually weaker this morning. All those assembled on these blogs will make up their own minds. And most see this stunt for what it is - a favor in which people who know the true ravages of discrimination allow their cause to be prostituted. And many will now wonder how often that happens.

Mr Stempler, meet Mr Sharpton. You two have much to discuss.
Agreed. A Jewish anti semitic Zimmer supporter is quite a stretch. Njdc has really discredited themselves on this one. Hope it was worth it Stempler and Mason.
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Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago

Yes. It's also important to remember that NJDC is a PAC, not a charity, Blogs aren't journalism and Mason isn't Jewish.

As a PAC, you have to ask yourself, what was the motivation behind doing what they did to GA?
Mason donated $1000 to this pac, Her donation represented 20% of their donations for the year.
speaking of donations,. SLick Tim thought he's scoot some donors under the wire. Posted on elec 11/1- donors:Richard Mason- $2,600 attny, Vikan Manoukian-$2000, sales, VM Vending, M- PETER EAGLER, $2000, Field Compliance Analyst, NJ TRANSIT,- Wendy Cherry, $2000, flemington, nj

NJ TRANSIT?????
TIMMAY TAKES NJ TRANSIT MONEY !

He said he was against their mega building project ? Then he takes thousands ?

When Beth Mason sent Lane Bajardi and Inez Keim to work for Timmy as her extra vote you had to expect Richard Mason's check book to follow. Waitng untill after the election to show the cash by these people looks more than a little like they want ti hide the money connection.
Beautifully said
she did convert - have to take her at her word
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Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago

One can convert to Buddhism; doesn't make them Chinese
I have been thinking a lot about the GA picture - with any historical knowledge the reference is to Leni Riefenstahl - the similarity to beth's personality is amazing - take a look. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leni_RiefenstahlShe should kiss GA's butt for the warning.
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The whole thing has been soo overblown. As if Mike Russo has any knowledge of the film or Leni R. The file has always been considered a masterpiece of its genre and Leni R considered to be a brilliant film maker. The reference was to the FILM and a pun on the title fo the FIM, nothing to do with Nazism - no Nazi graphics, just a Germanic font as the FILM was in German. However, Lame and Beth choose to dumb it down and did a pretty good job of throwing the election fraud coverage off the first page. Anyone notice that the GA story actually has a larger presence on the Hoboken Reporter front page than the story about the referral to the AG? WTF? But I guess Beth has finally decided that her public political persona will be Jewish, so I suppose that we will no longer hear her wax nostalgic about her Eyetaliano Catholic background.
Mike Russo, where were you when your Dad ran against Ira Karasick and his supporters hurled Anti-Semetic remarks at the Cable Debates in the High School Auditorium?

The comment by an audience member, "I don't want my Italian Deli's getting replaced by Jew Deli's" stood out for me.
That's "Semitic"
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OLDNEWCOMER2 · 749 weeks ago

" Lame and Beth choose to dumb it down and did a pretty good job... Beth has finally decided that her public political persona will be Jewish, so I suppose that we will no longer hear her wax nostalgic about her Eyetaliano Catholic background. "
Dumb stuff down is what they do. I don't know if it will continue to work for Mason because she's pissed a lot of people off and really isn't just another Italian Joisy Girl; I'll leave it others to say whether she's really Jewish. But dumbing down still works in Hoboken generally: see Tim O.

BNR Italian is a tribe; same way somebody would say Mason isn't really Jewish, even without doubting her religious sincerity. Hardcore Italian BNR's aren't church goers IME. Anyway, old guardism is mainly about Italian rule now and forever in Hoboken, with non-white project dwellers and a few Irish BNR remnants as useful idiots. It's nothing to do with Catholic.
Although we may disagree I love you Nancy. Do not let anyone intimate you.
intimidate.
We should contact the NJDC again - i really don't think they will return calls. Also I would like to see this go away. It is a fake issue on which people now have opinions like our city council which are not based on fact. They posioned the well so lets move on
Also the hoboken rabbi should come out with a statement - honestly I don't know what position he will take - but i would welcome his opinion. What is the bigger crime in our religion to not apologize or not to accept an apology - i know what i was taught in hebrew school - that is before they threw me out
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Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago

Since this is political, the rabbi cannot have a public opinion.
I don't think we necessarily need anyone's contemplative take on a hit job. Unfortunate things have happened. It is what it is. If you were honestly looking for an apology it came. If you are honestly looking to be outraged, no apology will do. If you are honestly looking to be political, get back rehashing and retooling your agenda. Time to move on.
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Grafix Avenger · 749 weeks ago

bird, I had a heart-to-heart with the rabbi already and will defer to him on whatever he chooses to do. I believe he wants our conversation to remain private, but I'll say he was very kind and understanding. He has the option of sharing a letter I wrote to him with his congregants, but again; I defer to him on that.

The issue of separating political malevolence from pure emotional responses to the poster image I used once it was widely disseminated and linked back to the hit-piece on H411 has been the big challenge for me. As you may imagine, I've been furious at the political hit job orchestrated, at the same time have had to acknowledge unintentional hurt for others who are offended by the source image. And have apologized to those who were hurt.

One thing does not dilute the other. I will expose what Mason-Bajardi have done to me. Oh, yes. SHe planted that hit-piece linking to H411 on the NJDC, a Washington PAC she donated $1,000 to, and her own fundraiser and donor sits on their Board of Directors. Mike Novak was part of it, too. No, i am going to expose what was done to me and thank goodness, I have help.

Here's my latest:
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-pay...

As for the other matter, the use of the poster-image, I've apologized publicly and privately. There is nothing more I can do. It's time to move on.
You guys sound like a militia movement.

Angry white males in their mid 30s who cannot keep a job or relationship

FAP, Roman ...get a life
4 replies · active 749 weeks ago
Blind advice form an anonymous poster. Very persuasive, indeed.
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Mattaccino · 749 weeks ago

The most prominent "angry white male in their mid 30s who cannot keep a job.." on these blogs is Meth Bason's mouthpiece, Inane Blowhardy.
Well if that sarcastic remark means tonight's close order drill and game of "Capture the Flag" is OFF, then I'm going down to unemployment to surf match.com while I wait in line.
Just wish you had told me before I did my camo makeup.
Later BFFs!
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InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago

Are you going from site to site conjecturing about FAP and Horsey's employment status?
http://www.nj.com/forums/hoboken/index.ssf?extlin... http://www.nj.com/forums/hoboken/index.ssf?extlin...

Can you even find a recent post from either of them on this site?
So Kurt members of the public and a local blogger are facist? That is a stretch, i am gonna need a visual.
 I cannot really see it so can you put up a Klaussen/Mussolini graphic with Lane sitting on his shoulders or something with a Nazi getup and a Hitler mustache?
 I suggest you and Nancy Drew get togheter on a  cooperative effort, ya know blogging, avenging, and all and heck who knows that
could even lead to some boinking?  I heard Nancy was single and apparently  takes a shine to "reporters" so perhaps you can win her over with a
few shiny gifts like a roll of tinfoil, and a crystal ball.

I know I know I should not be trying to play matchmaker here, but I figured you two "kids"
might enjoy a little craziness toghether in each other pants....
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Just when the Russo/Mason cabal can't sink any lower they send in Boink. ;)
Boink- Here we go again with your fascination with my personal sexual life as well as the value of my condo.

I have already stated on the record that Nancy's grafix was ill advised but I hate to tell you that as a matchmaker your recon stinks. Nancy is happily married and it is my policy to only extend friendship to married woman. It is bad karma to engage at any other level. I would also like to inform you that if your sexual preference is very tall overweight but devilishly handsome and intelligent men such as myself, you are barking up the wrong tree. To each his own I always say but I just don't want you to get your hopes up on my availability. I only like single and available women in the appropriate age range, namely 30 years and up. The trick is to get them to like me.

Take your psycho-sexual patho-babble to the website meant for such low brow whiskey entangled discourse Hobroken41anddone.com.

Have a happy turkey day operative!

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Boink- Here we go again with your fascination with my personal sexual life as well as the value of my condo.

I have already stated on the record that Nancy's grafix was ill advised but I hate to tell you that as a matchmaker your recon stinks. Nancy is happily married and it is my policy to only extend friendship to married woman. It is bad karma to engage at any other level. I would also like to inform you that if your sexual preference is very tall overweight but devilishly handsome and intelligent men such as myself, you are barking up the wrong tree. To each his own I always say but I just don't want you to get your hopes up on my availability. I only like single and available women in the appropriate age range, namely 30 years and up. The trick is to get them to like me.

Take your psycho-sexual patho-babble to the website meant for such low brow whiskey entangled discourse Hobroken41anddone.com.

Have a happy turkey day operative!

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Lane is probably envious of you. You have a job. People like you. You have a brain. You are single and aren't mooching off of your wife or some evil witch who rides a broom and thinks she is the Queen of Hoboken and you have a future. Lane just lives off of the scraps of others and envious you living it up in your condo. Pity him for he is a worthless wretch and not even worth paying attention to.
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InfotainMe · 749 weeks ago

Must suck to have this as your most potent expression of manhood. Play the hand you were dealt, water boy.
The problem is that it the post is not funny, witty or interesting. It is just creepy. And I mean really creepy, like that guy who sweats too much wearing a washed out old tracksuit which once fit but now is too small, stained with splotches of unsourced fluids, bodily and otherwise, that inches up to you in the grocery line and asks some Lame question about what body part do you think that cucumber looks like in your basket, which vegetable is quickly removed and tossed aside as unfit for any decent home as you recoil in horror at the odious mixture of BO and stale cigarettes which oozes from this creepy guy who thinks that "craziness in somebody's pants" is a witty phrase. You know, that creepy guy - that really creepy guy.
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Reformerus_Gianticus · 749 weeks ago

My favorite grocery store pick-up line line is nice mellons (if she has them in her cart). Guess that is why I am still single. Just kidding :)
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hullabaloo · 749 weeks ago

Well I can attest to that fact that you're quite fly on the dance floor ;)
RG

Did I miss your interview with Mr. Stempler and someone from NJDC? Or, as I bet a friend, they never called you back.
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I did have the interview and the story will be up this weekend or Monday at the latest.
If the NJDC cannot admit their wrong - then they have no moral authority - Larry Stempler of the NJDC - happy hanukkah - you have given the jewish community the gift of light - no i mean -MIGHT . You have learned nothing from the history you hide behind
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I wouldn't say they are wrong. Looked at their website immediately after the story broke. They consistently condemn all uses of this kind of Nazi imagery for political gain.

In a sense they are right, it's really more or less making light of a time in history where people did truly horrible things to each other, I can understand why they might have a problem with it, and that is their prerogative.

The people who are wrong are those that politically motivated Hoboken folks who choose to blow things out of proportion, in my opinion is hypocritical. I never heard anyone decry Nazi-fying images of Obama or Bush, so I suspect that they are just full of ****, to be blunt.
Sorry - i was not clear- they were wrong to be pressured into attacking the post for purely political reasons and to link to 411. Really hard to believe the NJDC is interested in this small blog - But i agree with every thing you said
Having read about Beth's vote buying - her midnight over throw of the city council president, her shopping around of her story to the ADL, the seduction of the NJDC (a modern dat samson?)- i really wonder if there are any remote parallels to the past. I pose this as question to Beth's spiritual leader

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